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@TorontoPolice News Conference Re: Project Claudia | Chief Mark Saunders


Constable Caroline De Kloet: Good morning
and thank you for attending police headquarters. My name is Constable Caroline De Kloet and
I’m here today to introduce three speakers who will be providing an update on project
Claudia. Our first speaker is Mr. Mark Shregger director of investigative services municipal
licensing and standards of the City of Toronto. Followed by our Chief of Police Mark Saunders,
followed by acting inspector Steven Watts from the drug squad.
Mr.Shreggar: Thank you, and good morning as a result the significant number of so called
medical marijuana dispensaries that have opened up throughout the city in the recent months.
The city in partnership with Toronto Police Services has undertaken investigations of
these premises. These investigations included municipal standards officers attending and
inspecting 78 locations throughout the city for determining if there were any municipal
by laws violations. Where violations of the cities by-law were identified letters were
sent all the business and property property owners informing them of these violations
and advising them that they face possible legal actions if they allowed the violations
to continue. Yesterday in conjunction with the actions taken by the Toronto Police services
that 43 of these locations municipal standard officers also attended and laid charges against
the business owners or operators. The charges included violations of the cities zoning by-law
and some instances additional charges were laid were violations of the seized licencing
by-law at those locations were identified for the selling of foods. A total of 79 charges
were laid yesterday by municipal licensing and standards officers yesterday, 48 charges
for violations of the cities zoning by-law for using a property for none prohibited use.
31 charges for violations of the cities licensing by-law for carrying on business without where
foods stuff intended for human consumption were offered for sale without valid business
licenses. Both the zoning and licensing by-law charges have a maximum fine of $25,000 for
an individual and $50,000 for a corporation. The first appearance dates for these matters
is scheduled for 9AM on June 19 at Old City Hall in court room N. The city will also be
proceeding with charges against property owners where the zoning change violations have been
allowed to continue on despite being provided with written warning and notifications. The
municipal licensing standards division will continue with our enforcement actions utilizing
all tools available to us to gain compliance with the municipal by-laws at these locations
that continue to operate on a forward going basis. Thank you.
Chief Mark Saunders: Thank you Mark. Yesterday, at 12 p.m., members of the Toronto Police
Service, in partnership with officers from the City of Toronto Municipal Licensing & Standards,
executed 43 search warrants at various locations across the city, known to be unlawful storefront
selling marijuana. As a result, approximately 90 people were
arrested, and 186 charges were laid I’ll have acting inspector Steve Watts give a more stronger
accounts as to the numbers and the charges. This Project has been ongoing for a number
of weeks in response to significant community complaints and public safety issues regarding
the drastic increase of these storefronts. Since March, the number of storefronts have
more than doubled, and Officers from our Drug Squad have worked jointly with Municipal Licensing
and Standards as well as with Public Prosecution Service Canada.
As you may know, on May 18, Toronto Police Service issued Civil Remedies for Illicit
Activity letters to 44 locations. And in the letter it clearly stated: clearly stated that
these locations were engaged in unlawful activities and if they didn’t seize that actions would
be taken in accordance to the criminal code of Canada. Since that letter was distributed
only one location shut down. I want to be very clear about our intentions project Claudia
is not an attack on lawful production distribution or purchasing of marijuana for medical purposes.
Health Canada has published clear guidelines if you look right there you will see what
the guidelines are when it comes to the illegalities of distribution of marijuana. And I also want to be clear that these locations
have a broader impact on the surrounding neighbourhoods. There is no quality control whatsoever on
these products and many, as you can see they are marketed in a way that disguises the unknown
and unregulated amount of THC in the products. And almost half of all locations to date,
are within 300 metres of schools. The Toronto Police Service has always and
will continue to keep neighbourhoods as safe as we possibly can. If I could just have acting
inspector Steve Watts just go through the activities of yesterday: That be great!
Steve Watts: Thank you Chief. I’ll just speak to what the Chief was mentioning earlier there
is significant community complaints that generated this project. And as he stated it was done
in conjunction with municipal licensing and the city with the full approval and guidance
of the PPSC. These complaints were substantial in nature petitions and access of 50 60 70
people just to give you an idea of the kind of complaints that were coming forward in
relation to these unlawful store front dispensaries. Also I’ll go through the charges, to the numbers
for you and there is 90 people arrested 186 charges laid, sorry 186 controlled drugs and
substance act charges which would have been in possession of purpose of trafficking p
for p charges. 71 criminal charges which would have been proceeds charges related to cash
in terms of seizures in excess of 269 kilos of dried cannabis so dry bud weed in excess
of 30 kilos of cannabis resin, excess of 24 kilos of cannabis hash, there was also in
excess of 27 kilos of marijuana and THC pills that is oil and capsule form. And then we
get to the what we refer to as the substance edibles which are laid out in front of you
here. This amount that’s displayed is literally only from a minimal amount of search warrants
I’ll say its less than less than 5 of the search warrants so there was a massive amount
of edibles that were taken from these unlawful locations. So were talking about 72 kilos
of chocolate 142 kilos of cookies 129 kilos of candies that includes nutela with every
flavor you like. Soda’s and liquids 64 kilos of that and just other oils and spreads 126
kilos of that just under $160, 000 dollars in cash seized which would account for the
proceed referred to earlier. And 23 grams of powdered cocaine seized at one of the locations.
And I would also just like to speak to the methodology and the search warrants how they
were executed. This was a well thought out well planned approach in terms of this this
was not this was not the normal I’m speaking from an enforcement perspective here. This
was not the normal protocol for search warrants that are executed where people are show caused
in terms of a show cause situation this was a situation where the agreement was made it
was with command and PPSE approval that these individuals be form 10 or 11.1 from the scene.
They would be officer in charge would attend and facilitate the release just we are cognisant
of the nature of the legislation in this matter. And were cognisant and that’s why we took
that measured approach we took a measured approach and we took a joint approach with
the city and with the PPSE in addressing these unlawful dispensaries. And I’ll just peak
to just to echo the chiefs sediment one of these issues here is the quality control what
I refer to is the proper term quantitative amounts of THC that are in these products
there is no there is no uhm proper measuring there’s no proper quantitative analysis there
all deferring according to store to store so that’s when we run into the health and
safety implications for the people that are utilizing these products there’s no standardization
amongst these products that are being either consumed by adults and/or children. Thank
you. Chief Mark Saunders: Thank you Inspector,
I’m sure there are questions: Reporter: Chief, Are you surprised by this
large amount of all of this stuff seized yesterday? Chief: No, I wasn’t surprised at the large
amount and I want to be very cautious in why this is important. And its the health concern
it is a genuine health concern and because there is no regulatory process behind this
and so you don’t know going to one store where you purchase one brownie or one muffin or
cupcake and you go into the next store how much THC is in this store vs. that one? you
don’t know and where did it come from? how is it manufactured? and what’s the quality
control of the premise that it actually made at? So its a health concern it is a genuine
health concern. Reporter #2: Is that a assumption or do you
actually have documentation from hospitals and dr prove that these are health concerns?
because these concerns have literally been around for 20 years and literally the medical
marijuana has been around for 100 of years and it has literally never killed anybody
so how can you justify that there is a health concern? When really it its the most benign
substance that you can ingest? Chief: So lets have a quick chat here, the
reason why Reporters: you get 54 or 55 complaints what
about the thousands of people that these clubs are helping where do you suggest these people
go? back in the black market? back in the alley ways? That’s not a health risk?
Chief: Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk.
Reporters (inaudible) Chief: We have the bottom line is under the
act right now it is standardized which means you have an understanding of exactly how much
THC is in the product also you also have an understanding of what your getting you don’t
know what your getting when you make the purchases off the streets and if I ask you where are
the sources of all these products you don’t have the answers if I’d ask you if I were
to ask how much THC was in each product if I were to ask how much THC in each product
no one here would be able to define that? Reporters: Talking over one another (inaudible)
Reporter: Did you know the license are lying about the health Canada producers do have
THC numbers listed but when independently tested those numbers are not accurate, what
do you say about that? Chief: What I say is that when you look at
health Canada number 2 tells you point blank that there’s no such thing as a dispensary
the only way you can have a license is if health Canada issues that license. And if
you process that and if you go through that process
Reporters: health Canada has yet to do the courts have allowed these dispensaries to
exist for medical marijuana the licensed producers only exist because a court decisions ordering
the Harper government to provide access to marijuana the NPR program is a Harper program
designed to restrict access to marijuana the license producers are supporting the program
that restricts access and they benefit from the court cases and the arrests and peaceful
Canadians being charged and arrested and handcuffed and criminalized and those Canadians went
to court they won in court and the courts said medical marijuana must be made available
that is why there are licensed producers they benefit from the dispensaries laying the ground
work and no harm is being done when you send children to buy candy where cigarettes are
sold at corner shops. How do you justify that? Chief: Anyone
Reporters: (inaudible) Where are the victims? show us the victims? 54 complaints yet you
have 10s and thousands of people feeling better. Where’s the victims?
Chief: As I stated in my earlier comments anyone that has a medical prescription for
marijuana still has access to we have not in anyway shape or form hindered or slowed
down the access of getting medical marijuana. Reporters: (many talking) practically speaking
there’s obviously you guys have shut down number of stores and there’s obviously and
those places have a lot of patients where do you expect or think that those people are
now going to get their marijuana? Chief: If they have a medical prescription
for it first and foremost you have to get your prescription once you get your prescription
it opens up the avenues for where you can legally obtain it and it is it is accessible.
Reporters: (many talking at the same time) Reporters: Why did you move in now? There’s
been a long lapse between these dispensaries say in November started coming up and maybe
a dozen or even a 100 who knows exactly how many, why did you move in now when really
nothing has been done up until now? not to long ago you applied it would be a waste of
tax payers money because everything is in such legal limbo?
Chief: That’s a fair question. And what I said was I’m working in partnership with the
public prosecutors as well as the city to see what the best direction we should go in.
And so once the once we had the discussion then the public prosecutors are very supportive
of what is taking place as a criminal act unless you have a license to sell marijuana.
We did not do anyone with possession but once I got the acknowledgement from the PPSE and
had full understanding of what the health concerns were that was when I decided to take
the action. Reporters: (many speaking)
Reporters: were you pressured politically at all to do this?
Chief: No I was not pressured politically to make any decisions and I knew it was going
to be a hard decision lets not make any mistake about this I really do not want to impede
on anyone that wants medical marijuana but there’s a avenue in which we have to go in
order to get that and when you look at look at what health Canada says you need to do
in order to obtain medical marijuana you see that the availability is there for people
that are in need of it. Reporters: Chief much of the criticism yesterday
said that with changes on the way to the laws much of this stuff wont stick in court how
would you respond to that? Chief: Well I’ve been in that was a decision
that I had to make and I rest assured I feel very strongly that the charges will stick
and so its based on the conversations I have had I believe the charges will stick and this
is not about the charges this is about the public safety that is the concern. its the
classic .. Reporters: (many talking)
Chief: If we could have those 2 gone please so that I can have a legitimate press release.
Reporters: (many talking) Chief: I’m trying to answer the questions,
I’m trying to answer the questions and just and when it comes to the..
Reporters:(many speaking) Reporters: I’m getting kicked out for asking
where’s the victims? Chief: no, your not the problem is your not
giving an opportunity for anyone to answer questions.
Reporters: All I’m asked was where are the victims that’s all I ask? Sir will you answer
that question, where’ s the harm if any? Reporters: (many speaking)
Reporters: What about the 10s and thousands of medical patients who are sick
Reporters: (Many speaking) Chief: So anyways the ones that are that are
still active we hadn’t received complaints from those but the investigation Is still
on going if a dispensary is up and running its unlawful unless they have a license from
health Canada and if they are distributing marijuana then they will be charged as well.
Reporters: (many speaking inaudible) Chief: the vast majority that is correct
Reporters: Well will all of them be shut down then?
Chief: Were going to continue our investigation and see where it takes us but the the message
I do want to get out that’s very loud and clear that if you don’t’ have a license from
health Canada and your distributing marijuana its unlawful.
Reporter: Have you had any children (inaudible) marijuana candies lollipops?
Chief: No you know what I don’t have any evidence of that and I’m going to tell you I don’t
want any evidence of children mistakenly having jujubes or brownies or muffins or any of those
things so the edibles are a huge concern for the public safety factor which is the primary
reason we are here today. Reporter: Chief its actually quite valid question
what are the health concerns ? Chief: Well that the problem is you don’t’
know what the qualitative analysis is in one product vs. the other and its
Reporter: Why is that important? Chief: Why is that important?
Reporter: Why is it so important where is the danger not knowing how much THC is in
the product? Chief: There is a danger if you don’t’ know
where the source is coming from sir, number 1 and then there’s’ also the danger you don’t’
even know you know I’d like to answer your questions if you stop talking.
Reporter: well what’s the answer? Chief: Now can I thank you, so here we have
the danger when comes to the regulatory process like I said these locations can not tell you
where its coming from nor what the actual contents is unless their guessing I have a
concern with that and number 2 you don’t even know who your purchasing off out of the arrest
that we made 2 people were wanted one person has a bench warrant for and we found cocaine
in another location so that’s part of the issue when it comes to the regulatory process
we have to have environments where it is regulated properly by the government so that there is
a standard not just ad hop I’ll just open a shop and go by my own rules you can’t do
that. Reporters: Are there any evidence that organized
crime is behind any of these dispensaries? Chief: its to early to say right now were
looking into the investigation to see where it takes us this is just the starting point
right now so it doesn’t. absolutely where is the money going? these locations are open
for profit for monetary gains and so (inaudible)and more importantly where’s the source of these
products where’s the source of the cannabis is coming from we don’t’ know and that’s still
lies the problem. Reporter (talking in between)
Reporters: so did you receive any records to clients or customers records in the shops?
Chief: repeating reporter Shregger: Every location was distinct so I
can not comment on what was seized in terms of that. Sorry.
Reporter: If you find those records will those people be at risk of being charged?
Shregger: So your talking about people that were possessing?
Reporter: Like clients like if some of these patients if some of these places have databases
or lists of patients and clients are those people at risk of being charged?
Shregger: No, they are not its not about the consumer per say this is about trafficking
from the dispensaries. Reporter: But if the consumers are not being
harmed whose being harmed? Reporter: I want to ask you about your measured
approach can you explain what you mean by that?
Chief: Yes the measured approach first started with the letter advising the owners that there
is unlawful activity going on seize and desist or else we will come in and we will enforce
under the criminal code and we then we waited for a period of time to give people the opportunity
to make the decision of stopping the distribution. Those that didn’t were charged now when it
comes to trafficking normally its a show cause which means you get apprehended you get brought
before the courts immediately and show cause to why you should be released. We did not
do that we got the consent from the public prosecutor that we could do it just on releasing
by giving a piece of paper form 10 then 11 one basically stating you know what come back
in a week for finger prints and 2 weeks to set a date for court. So these were some of
the things that we tried to do as low key as possible in order to you know not make
it you know kick the door in and do it traditionally do it for a drug search warrant.
Reporter: You did kick in the doors though sir and also did you find anybody actually
violent or resisting or using any force against you because when you say you want to protect
the public from harm its seems to me that the harm comes from the 90 peaceful citizens
receiving criminal records which will prohibit them from getting work ban them from being
able to travel maybe even possibly take their kids away their right to get a scholarship,
these are part of the communities peaceful people.
Chief: That is why I said before that there was an opportunity to stop in distributing
the product which is on May 18 we gave that notice to everybody so there was no surprise
that we were coming in people had ample opportunity to make their informed decision whether or
not they wanted to continue to break the law because we said what your dong is unlawful
or to continue to break the law and those that made that decision to continue to break
the law unfortunately they are charged right now as it speaks.
Reporter: (many speaking) (inaudible) Chief: Well that would be that would be released
when it comes court date there were active investigations at each location that we had
executed the search warrant. Reporter: The thousands of sick and dying
patients who you are now sending to the black market preventing them to getting their medicine,
their Dr’s wont sign (many speaking) Chief: I will say that look anybody that needs
marijuana for medicinal purposes if you obtain that prescription we have not closed any we
have no Reporter: Speaking in the back
Chief: Sir, you know I’ve got to hand it to you you keep asking questions but you really
don’t want answers you just want to make statements, I’m trying to answer but every time I open
my mouth you continue to talk so anyway the questions that this just gentleman asked was
what do I do to the patients that require marijuana and I’ve said very clearly first
and foremost we did not disrupt any of the legal processes in obtaining marijuana so
anyone has the medical marijuana prescription you still have full access of getting that
medical marijuana and so in no way or shape or form did we look at or consider arresting
people for possession this is strictly for those people that are trafficking it the narcotics
and the edibles are a huge concern for us. Reporter: there were doors bashed in and people
in handcuffs are those true? Chief: Yes, and when we execute search warrants
when you have 5 officers going into a place and there are 17 people one of the things
we have to do is ensure safety and security first and foremost before anything else is
done. so people were hand cuffed and then once we figure out exactly who the person
is that is in possession of distributing those are the people that were charged everyone
else was released. Reporter’s: (inaudible)
Chief: With the door that was breached it was because it was locked.
Reporter: Sir can you talk to the board here sir,
Reporter: (inaudible) Chief: No there are 2 people out of the 90
arrests 2 are in custody but one had an outstanding warrant and the other had a firearm charges
in another province. Reporter: how much did this investigation
cost can you comment on the amount of police resources that was spent on this?
Chief: no Reporter: is there a concern by doing this
you drive people back to the underground sources. Chief: No the for the medical marijuana no,
I don’t believe that. Reporter: The board here you have a list of
names some of them are in green can you explain what’s going on there?
Chief: I’m not sure what’s in green. Sorry, and I’ll get an answer for you later.
Reporter: Chief how come any of these dispensaries it seems that some are truly trying to only
service people that genuinely are not well but others looks like its the LCBO you hear
lots of people legitimately, did you get an distinction some are following the rules even
though I know are illegal but are some following the rules with genuine prescriptions than
others or are are others just sourcing each other?
Chief: Well the problem is every dispensary has its own set of regulations in what they
are doing and how they are doing it their intensions may be well served and I understand
that but at the end of the day knowingly selling and not having a license which is issued by
health Canada its unlawful you can’t be doing it.
reporter: but did you find some that were flaunting by getting the prescription (inaudible)
Chief: no I don’t’ I can’t really comment on that.
Reporter: Chief, were you working in conjunction with health Canada did you partner up with
health Canada with this consult with them? Chief: We spoke with the public prosecutor
because they are the ones that are officers of the court that would determine whether
or not this would go through the court proceedings to the end with a successful conclusion as
well as the city and that was a deciding factor had there been resistant from any entity then
I would have a concern but there was not in fact all entities were in total agreement
with exactly what the best action was from a safety prospective.
Reporter: So this is legalization (many speaking) Reporter: Chief, why don’t you do traditional
buy bust where you sent in a officer undercover to buy without a prescription or with a forged
prescription? Why was a traditional buy bust not done?
Chief: Because we wanted to give an opportunity for the dispensaries to make their own informed
decision to shut them down rather than us to have come in and shut it down and so that
was the primary reason. Reporter: Why didn’t you go to buy bust traditional
scenario Chief: After the 43 after the letters were
given and we did take it down and we did charge the people appropriately with possession charges
and the raids were done very low key they were not done high key at all they were very
low energy by enlarge. Reporter: Can you let us know nationally do
you have any comment on the number of dispensaries and the action we do take nationally?
Chief: The legal distribution centers there are I believe 18 or 20 and there are 29 in
Canada so we have the vast majority of them. Reporter: But there not outlets there by mail
only sir, and many people need to be able to see their medicine in person these dispensaries
obviously their patients come for them for a reason because they can’t get access to
the license producers the license producers are only so few and they feel that they don’t
even have enough supply for the patients so when were talking about liberty and health
and freedom why can’t they have freedom in person?
Chief: From my understanding that there is ample supply so I disagree with that.
Reporter: many speaking Reporter: how many do you have any idea how
many dispensaries there are now in Toronto you had said that they had doubled since March
so I wanted to just looking for a number. Chief: I’m not oh, you mean these dispensaries?
I think that there are 90 if not more. Reporter: Where did the project name come
from? Project Claudia what is that about? Chief: I’m not oh yah you know what its because
these dispensaries were rapidly climbing and climbing and started to get out of control.
Reporter: so this situation will continue for a while well until for the government
to clarify the laws and set the laws for everyone in place?
Chief: well the laws when it comes to trafficking are very clear and if you look behind you
and I hope to take away is you leave with the health Canada points there because they
speak very loud and clear as to what is lawful and what is not lawful for anybody in the
public that is standing in front of a dispensary wondering whether or not it is legal to purchase
or not its not its not. Thank you.

Robin Kshlerin

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82 COMMENTS

  1. Darlene Kells Posted on May 27, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    OMG lets dance around the issues and make Health Canada the bad seed for these raids! If your going to warrant that edibels are not safe then you need to go raid every kitchen in every house whether it contains weed or not!! Your reason is stupid….the people walking into these dispensaries know what they are there for and are willing to buy from them….its not like they make them entre their store. Get a grip….health canada my ass. Every kitchen in every house is a breading ground for a health risk….its still all about it being infused with cannabis that you dont agree with not about health risks at all!!

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  2. Stoner_mtl Posted on May 27, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    SHAME ON THE TORONTO POLICE DEPARTMENT TAX PAYERS MONEY WELL WASTED

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  3. Keglanek Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    Whats wrong Toronto Police, you guys not getting your free weed supply from busting dealers you guys decided to move onto clinic's. Stay classy

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  4. Mike Dobson Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    what you think your a bunch Hero's showing off your spoils of war? sorry to break it to you you're not.. your nothing but a bunch of losers picking on the lowest hanging fruit. Get the crack and the meth off our streets and then you can say you're a hero til then you're nothing. To be all honest TPS disgusts me by showing off all the medications they took from patients that needed it

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  5. Jared Beattie Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    Whoa, good thing those cookies and candies and muffins are off the streets!

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  6. 1adorada Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    lol mettrum lp always has alot but it was kinda nice just going to these clinics for variety

    https://www.mettrum.com/ never seen them sold out in over a year 🙂 for those that actually need 🙂

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  7. peter steinke Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    There is enough meds on that table to keep me alive and out of the hospital for years (yeah.. I'm actually disabled and use weed medically, what a shock). Now I'll be stuck using the government approved, overpriced, crap that works about as well as children's tylenol and that sad thing is, I completely expect to be in the hospital within a few months now.

    Tube in arm, opioids in system, surgery in the future: that's been my life since I was 16.

    These "so called medical marijuana dispensaries", as that ever so enlightened first speaker called them, have given me my life back by actually caring about their patients and making meds that actually work: something the government loses sight of as soon as they start to lose money.

    Thanks for literally ruining my life guys, I already have an appointment on the June 28th to discus removing my small intestine. Now there is no chance of me not having that happen as I don't have any real meds to fight off the spreading of my disease.

    You guys have done a great service for your community, well done.

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  8. Billy Bong Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Public safety and health concerns….the bottom line is $$$$$ MONEY$$$$ the government is not making there money from licenses.

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  9. kodguerrero Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    Jodie's voice is unmistakable. I'm so glad you're here this weekend!

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  10. Billy Bong Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:27 pm

    Legalize is to continue the lies, Decriminalize and truly free the weed.
    Peace #BongBillyBong

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  11. Narc Bova Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    Stormtrooper Leader Saunders, go back to your Kennel and smoke them and don't forget to invite your master Con Leader Mayor Tory.

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  12. Grizzly Beard Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    I think this does need to be regulated. Just like alcohol. You can argue that the government takes a cut but I would rather know who and where this product is coming from. Standardization is key. If it's for medical purposes or recreational it needs to be regulated.

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  13. Judah Seeds Posted on May 27, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    Mafia, and War Mongering tactics. So set on corruption, destroying and tearing down your neighbors through assault, abuse and robbery!! "Police" No "Criminals" in uniform demanding respect at the end of a loaded barrel, Bulls on Parade!!!

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  14. Ryan Lever Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:30 pm

    119 dislikes lol

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  15. Kevin La Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Looks like they raided a bake sale! Good job TPS

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  16. Samer Mansour Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    Legit argument point:

    There's many more than four alcohol dispensaries plus a government operated LCBO at maple leaf gardens <300m to Church St. Jr. Public School! Also a stripper bar (with unbelievably hot guys btw) So let's disregard this arbitrary distance argument, is it really what's angering people, like young people can't walk more than 300 meters. Common…
    No one seems worried kids will be influenced or buy alcohol and strippers. The drinking on the patio is in plain view. And the strippers do come out for a smoke break in their uniforms or lack there of. ‪#‎ProjectClaudia‬ ‪#‎MonkeySeeMonkeyWant‬ ‪#‎ohhhouuuahhhaahhhahhhh‬

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  17. Macster Marston Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    SCUMBAGS n Bullies ALL YOU ARE

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  18. Alf Vin Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    I hope you guys (TPS) read these comments so you know where the people actually stand on this issue. All these pro-raid media spins are not reflective of the people's opinions. You guys can't even synch your audio and video, but we're supposed to be impressed? This is not serving or protecting us, but rather the opposite. How is it constitutional to have to wait for the mail to come for medicine that is needed at the moment? Who filled that spot? These dispensaries. Therefore, you (the Toronto Police Service) are actually committing a very real criminal offence of obstruction. All these people who you arrested just for being in these buildings is unlawful arrest. If someone walks into a dispensary just to have a look, they're automatically associated with the practice? NO. That's a very real instance of unlawful arrest. How many unlawful arrests took place yesterday? How many confiscations of legally prescribed medicines? This is pathetic. This is not our will.

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  19. Terry Park Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    T.O Police Flexin..

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  20. Nick Bee Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:46 pm

    It's a genuine Health Concern? Yeah, right

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  21. Macster Marston Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    you can tell by their faces they KNOW THEY'RE A JOKE acting on the will of a few against the large majority, USELESS CLOWNS! go solve real crimes and STOP SHOOTING INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!!

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  22. Macster Marston Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:52 pm

    I hope every single puppet that worked this circus gets CANCER…

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  23. Beebad1 Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    This is only harming so many people that need that oil to keep their cancer at bay don't understand why they would do this so unnecessary

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  24. Macster Marston Posted on May 27, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    where's the harm!? they're the ones shooting/harassing people smfh…

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  25. MrNativedude Posted on May 27, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    Good shut them all down !! Now we will raise the price on the street and make more money. Hahahahaha ( evil laugh )

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  26. Taylor Britton Posted on May 27, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    the Toronto Police broke 7 of their 8 core values with this operation. at least they used teamwork or it would have been a full 8/8.

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  27. antagonizerr Posted on May 27, 2016 at 7:38 pm

    Cowardly and corrupt. This isn't about pot, it's about civil forfeiture. It's about profiteering from seized property by a criminal organization intent on funding guns, tanks and pay raises.

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  28. Marc Benoit Posted on May 27, 2016 at 7:53 pm

    Time for Trudeau to step up !!!

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  29. XerShade Posted on May 27, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    To the people saying that the amounts and source don't matter, well it kind of does. If hypothetically, I was prescribed to have a certain amount of the drug in my system, and I did not know what I was putting in, got tested and was over the amount what does that say to you. To the one checking to see if I was not over my limit it would appear that I was abusing the substance instead of using it properly.

    Now I ask, how would feel if you were in that situation, where you would be viewed as an addict and a substance abuser when you honestly could not know how much of the drug you were taking. While Medical Marijuana does not have the same dangers as other drugs when you overdose, an overdose is still an overdose.

    Take this situation as another example, say a patient is prescribed a specific amount of thc in their system so that it works while they are at home but they are not under the influence by the time they go to work. The patient then goes to one of these dispensaries where there is no regulation and asks for a prescription of what they need, unknown to them that the person giving them the drug does not know what the exact amount of thc in the drug they are selling is. The patient then goes home, takes the drug from the dispensary and thinks all will be fine. Turns out over the next few days they had been ingesting more thc then what their prescription said they should be and are still under the influence at work, when the amount the doctor had prescribed should not cause the patient to be under the influence while at work. Then because of this an incident happens at work and the boss fires them for being under the influence.

    Now how do we prevent the above scenario, by doing exactly what these men in uniform did and stop the illegal distribution of the drug, especially the dispensaries that do NOT know where exactly the drug came from and EXACTLY how each dose/prescription should be prepared.

    My honest opinion: I would rather not have what I need and suffer, than to have it given to me by a completely unknown source.

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  30. just1fix2004 Posted on May 27, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    Go big Pharma yes men/police.

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  31. Marc Benoit Posted on May 27, 2016 at 7:58 pm

    dumd ass no one ever died from cannabis lol but still let kids smoke cigs in high school!!! wake up

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  32. Marc Benoit Posted on May 27, 2016 at 8:06 pm

    those that continue to operate are tied into PHARMA 🙂 simple anser

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  33. camper keith Posted on May 27, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    Sounds like they're getting rid of the competition so the greedy bastards can monopolize and over charge the people in need. SMH

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  34. Loud Bank Posted on May 27, 2016 at 8:59 pm

    lawmakers and those who uphold it would benefit from being better educated on cannabis. They must realize the war on cannabis is the wrong fight. Instead they continue to loose credibility.

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  35. Loud Bank Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    Dealing with people's health is like walking on a sharp razor. Only the cruel would deny medcine.

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  36. Richard Kudra Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:12 pm

    31:46 ….! " http://cannabiscoalition.ca/files/BillBlair&cabinet2016iii28.pdf

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  37. Richard Kudra Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    8:18…. http://www.ccic.net/index.php?home&lng=en

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  38. Chad Lantz Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:23 pm

    should Toronto Police not be more worried about the massive amount of gun violence in the city instead of this. am I crazy to ask that?

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  39. Zero The Hero Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    Uber still operates outside of the law. Mr Tory Party, so ineffectual, had to look like a "real Mayor" went after sick people. Good Luck on re-election. the under 50s did not want this and will vote you out.

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  40. Zero The Hero Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    Overgrow the city, plant pot everywhere.

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  41. Richard Kudra Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    Abhorrent Behavior Servants !!!!
    Shameful Lack of Compassion ……. Again !!!
    " Before You reach,hard~…. do Your Hard Research Please."
    And.
    Can You PLEASE start the Hard Works Of Harms Reductions NOW.

    Now You Been Told Mr!

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  42. John N. Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:37 pm

    All cops are cowards. Government is immoral.

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  43. Richard Kudra Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Honorable Chief Saunders,
    Health Canada Has Not Ever Gotten this Right ….
    http://american-safe-access.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/AHP_Cannabis_Monograph_Preview.pdf

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  44. Martin Pena Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    wait so does this mean that patients that were walk in patients wont be charged for being the the list of members of certain dispensaries that were raided yesterday?

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  45. Zero The Hero Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    DoS attack the LP`s. shut them down too.

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  46. Richard Kudra Posted on May 27, 2016 at 9:48 pm

    15:41…… http://decisions.fct-cf.gc.ca/fc-cf/decisions/en/item/61753/index.do

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  47. Zero The Hero Posted on May 27, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    Can`t get my so called tainted weed as Saunders states, so I got a bottle of home-made wine. Hope the quality control is what he expects. Also a pack of native smokes, all picked up with illegal Uber.

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  48. No Name Posted on May 27, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    very fare – no out of line at all…. Who wants to go night stick some homeless people. Stinging up some long hairs this weekend…….. Why stop at raids

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  49. Jayelynn Damon Posted on May 27, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    cracking down on people for a plant that has been growing on this planet long before human history even started, nature is not illegal and if it is, a future enlightened civilization will look back at us primitive 21st century laws with the same naivete we look back at previous societies!

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  50. 47 Posted on May 27, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    Toronto Police bunch of dumb, stupid imbecils.

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  51. Endwar Powers Posted on May 27, 2016 at 11:59 pm

    These actions are clearly unlikely to increase happiness and prosperity, instead it is likely to increase suffering for humans and it is therefore my opinion that what you have done here is ethically unsound.

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  52. CalixYukon Posted on May 28, 2016 at 1:02 am

    come and arrest us all, you got one year left bozo

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  53. Costa Apostolou Posted on May 28, 2016 at 1:44 am

    You guys are assholes for closing down where I get my medication, I'm a very sick cancer patient since the age of 16 and you just took away my reasonable access to my medication, which is against my Canadian rights. You lied saying you don't target dispensaries selling to sick people, you are liars.

    The Mayor and the Police were Lobbied by Tweed, can't beat them then get them shut down.

    I will never buy my medication from Tweed, I can't afford their outrageous prices and crappy product and the fact they don't have Rick Simpson oil which helps my cancer(given free to me by the Angels at the dispensaries), you are nothing but corporate shills and history will destroy your legacy since you are on the wrong side of it. You wonder why the public hates the police, good luck with your continued draconian tactics.

    This is just going to drive people to buy from the streets, you are forcing sick MMAR patients to buy from the street which will increase crime.

    I can't get Rick Simpson oil from Tweed, my cancer has been the best it's been for 6 years because of Rick Simpson oil and edible marijuana and you are now endangering my health. I don't eat without cookies and lose weight drastically without marijuana/cookies, I may have to look into filing a lawsuit against the city for violation my Canadian Charter Rights and endangering my health and well being.

    Shame on you all for harassing sick people like me and denying me access to my LEGAL MEDICATION.

    Needing a credit card/money order and wait for shipment is not reasonable access to my life saving medication, not to mention the lack of Rick Simpson oil which doesn't get you high…..

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  54. info warrior Posted on May 28, 2016 at 2:15 am

    I gotta give Chief Saunders credit for patiently listening to his dissenters. It appears he is genuinely concerned about the health and safety of legitimate MMAR/MMPR patients and wants to ensure their continued access to their medicine. He's not going to be able to shut down neighborhood dispensaries completely and in a year or so the proliferation of pot shops wont be an issue, legal or otherwise.

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  55. Brandon Trainor Posted on May 28, 2016 at 4:16 am

    Another successful push forward for the war on drugs! Or was it a push backwards? Who can tell anymore!

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  56. Traincal007 Posted on May 28, 2016 at 4:23 am

    How dare you, you heartless creeps…..your days are numbered you do know that don't you?. The T.O Police are a bunch of overpaid cowardly bully sociopaths who ignore the blatant corruption that runs amok in Religious organizations,Toronto city hall and Queens park , you know the real true criminals, then have the nerve, the gall to raid, arrest peaceful harmless helpful people who actually do good for the people of Toronto. Time for an independent peoples inquiry of the police force and close you down for good, you T.O.P.F. have past your DD.

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  57. Katie Meeks Posted on May 28, 2016 at 6:08 am

    How many sick patients are now without their medication?!!! I as a citizen of toronto and a patient, who was prescribed cannibis, by a doctor, am greatly concerned not only for my health but all the innocent victims in this RAT RACE!! It's obvious , the Canadian government wants to turn our dispensaries into a corporate cash grab! You are hurting families , parents , grandparents! The only crime being committed , is a crime against humanity! Shame on the Toronto police , for their roll in this !

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  58. Katie Meeks Posted on May 28, 2016 at 6:15 am

    The only dispensarie left standing, is corporate run, they sell over priced, taxed, chemical spray, GMO poison. This is why, crime rates will rise , no one is about to sell out to these corporate monsters , I'd rather go risk it on the street ! !

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  59. Katie Meeks Posted on May 28, 2016 at 6:16 am

    The bottom line is the patients!!!!!!!!!!

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  60. sailor1901 Posted on May 28, 2016 at 6:44 am

    Chief Mark Saunders is the biggest joke in Canada right now,
    it would be funny if it wasn't such a huge waste of hard working taxpayer's
    money. hey 'col saunders' Marijuana is less harmful than alcohol and tobacco.
    The streets are full of Cocaine, crack, "E" and meth dealers, gang
    bangers and violent assaults, these things actually do harm and kill our
    children. Yet Col Sanders spends 100s of thousands of $$$ to go after a bunch
    of god fearing hippies. COWARDS!!! Just before Marijuana is legalized by the
    Feds. Then says "the charges are good and they will stick" they stink
    and a judge will throw them out. We really need better educated police with
    some backbone to fight real crime!!!

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  61. zeeraidinc Posted on May 28, 2016 at 8:36 am

    So — Grats Toronto police, you've just taken a bunch of safe places to purchase medical marijuana.. where you could ask questions, and get information on strains that would be beneficial to suffers.. and now you've just sent folks underground to shady folks in the bars or at 2 am on the streets..Unless you want to sell that pot to current sufferers.. maybe that's what happened.. is Toronto Police looking to start a dispensary?!

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  62. Jared9845 Posted on May 28, 2016 at 8:39 pm

    This is pure evil.

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  63. Tia Snoozy Posted on May 29, 2016 at 12:02 am

    Cocaine?????

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  64. Nix Glashen Posted on May 29, 2016 at 6:45 am

    sick, now everyone is going to buy on the streets and more people will get arrested! lol I mean if it keeps you guys busy 😂

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  65. ilovecereal1175 Posted on May 29, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    what a joke.. mark Saunders still hasn't answered the question of who the victims are… there are none!

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  66. Pickett 710 Posted on May 29, 2016 at 5:56 pm

    he keeps saying hes going to answer the questions but he has no answers…

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  67. Kevin Chisholm Posted on May 29, 2016 at 7:37 pm

    This is what gives police a bad name. Wow illegal dealers are rejoicing I'm sure. All the future tax money from these dispensaries lost… This was one costly raid against the people of Canada.

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  68. Richard Kudra Posted on May 29, 2016 at 7:56 pm

    THE RELEVANT CASELAW:

    Allard v. Canada: Federal Court strikes down current regulations.

    R. v. Smith: Supreme Court strikes down regulations prohibiting edible marijuana.

    Hitzig v. Canada: Court of Appeal strikes down key sections of former regulations.

    R. v. Parker: Court of Appeal strikes down marijuana possession laws due to medical marijuana issues.

    TORONTO POLICE SERVICES BOARD

    HATE OR BIAS MOTIVATED CRIME
    DATE APPROVED July 27, 2000 Minute No: P341/00
    DATE(S) AMENDED November 15, 2010 Minute No: P292/10
    DATE REVIEWED November 15, 2010 Minute No: P292/10
    REPORTING REQUIREMENT Chief to report to Board annually
    LEGISLATION Police Services Act, R.S.O. 1990, c.P.15, as amended,
    s. 31(1)(c).
    Adequacy & Effectiveness of Police Services,
    O. Reg. 3/99, s. 12(1)(h).
    DERIVATION Adequacy Standards Regulation – LE-007
    It is the policy of the Toronto Police Services Board that the Chief of Police will develop and
    maintain procedures and processes for undertaking and managing investigations into hate or bias
    motivated crime.
    Project 'Claudia'; A Medical Social-Economic Hate-Crime.
    " Public incitement of hatred

    319 (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of

    (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

    (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction.

    Marginal note:Wilful promotion of hatred

    (2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of

    (a) an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years; or

    (b) an offence punishable on summary conviction."

    " Board, by revising its policies, may alter the scope of the Chief's responsibilities."

    Tolerance and appropriateness. New Words for the Day!

    At this time I feel it would be appropriate to do that very thing.
    The public Demands this of Our Organisation please.

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  69. DoubleTapp TV Posted on May 29, 2016 at 9:28 pm

    these "so called" police got called out on their BS, quite amusing.

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  70. Richard Kudra Posted on May 30, 2016 at 6:25 am

    looked a little and was wandering dwn a line of involvements,….. investiments actually. Delshen Therapeutics. The Gov has 800 hundred acres, Tons of Money, involved in this Bamboozald Deal through Natural resources Building a facility for them. A thirsty big-city would be just the spot to top-up their investor's confidences prior to Public offerings. Green Asset International Inc. is gonna be the Banker for it or something like that.
    Mind you this is simply speculation and a proper thorough investigation would dispel or prove me wrong .
    For now this is VERY suspect !!!

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  71. Josh H Posted on May 30, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    Toronto dispensaries litterly saved my life and got me off of Opiates. I tried the LP and it's not affordable, not timely, and not reliable. My Toronto dispensary saved my life now the Toronto police took that away from me. So is it back to opiates and a chance of overdosing and dieing something that can't happen from my dispensary. Thanks for doing such a great job hurting thousands of sick people.😤

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  72. Richard Kudra Posted on May 30, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    POLL
    Do you support Project Claudia?
    25%
    Yes
    77 votes
    72%
    No
    222 votes
    2%
    Not sure
    7 votes
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    POLL
    Do you support Project Claudia?
    19%
    Yes
    225 votes
    78%
    No
    905 votes
    2%
    Not sure
    26 votes
    This in only 11hr!!!!
    From The Toronto Sun, Your Town's Digital Rag !
    @ 80% you are Now Affecting The Mayor and Council's Votes for
    Getting Re-Elected !!
    And THAT could Ripple to EVERY City in the GTA !!!
    This is Now VERY SERIOUS STUFF !!!!

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  73. Al Boisvert Posted on May 30, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    Shame on the Toronto Police!

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  74. Richard Kudra Posted on May 31, 2016 at 7:01 am

    Pretty disingenuous to call new regulations Law.

    Laws are decided by Courts not governments. Acts and regulations are not laws. And the Courts have not yet decided on this one.

    As well, consuming cannabis is not a crime, crimes by definition require a victim. So consuming cannabis is called an 'offense'. That also is why we dont have Criminal Law in Canada, because they like to abuse Human Rights, so they have to call it the Criminal Code, because its not Law, its 'Code'.

    Pretty hard to respect so called 'the regulations' when it is so completely distorted, diluted and convoluted in legal ways to make it so its unlawful.

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  75. Beats Period Posted on June 6, 2016 at 11:05 am

    I get most of his points but we don't know how much sugar the local coffee shop is putting in their muffins and that could be argued as doing harm to the community. Sugar is more dangerous than marijuana physically.

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  76. Charles Montana Posted on June 17, 2016 at 6:00 am

    I give this 420 thumbs down

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  77. Charles Montana Posted on June 17, 2016 at 6:06 am

    Cops do save lives so they aren't absolutely terrible but Cannabis saves lives too. Let's get together and feel alright! Smoke ganja everyday everyway!

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  78. Gary Chynne Posted on June 28, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    WE'LL FIGHT THESE PEOPLE IN COURT. THEIR SOCIOPATHS THAT NEED TO BE DEALT WITH BY JUDGES. THESE PEOPLE ARE OBVIOUSLY BIASED IN THERE NARROW INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW. I KNOW GARBAGE WHEN I SEE IT.
    THE DRUG SQUAD–THEY DO MORE DRUGS AND CERTAINLY STEAL MORE THAN THE REST OF US PUT TOGETHER.
    LOVE GARY

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  79. johnny studd Posted on October 24, 2016 at 1:19 pm

    this is simple the shops they raided were not licensed by the goverment to sell or grow marijuana that's why they were raided get your license and your fine you can't open up a shop and sell weed illegally

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  80. TDot Toons Gaming Posted on December 10, 2017 at 12:50 am

    SHAME ON THE THE TORONTO POLICE!!! TAX PAYERS MONEY WASTED THEY SHOULD BE STOPPING REAL CRIME!! THE POLICE ARE COWARDLY AND HURT PEOPLE THAT WERE JUST TRYING TO HELP OTHERS!! CHIEF SUANDERS IS A CLOWN HE CAN HARDLY READ HIS SPEECH LOL…

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