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@TorontoPolice News Conference Re: Yonge St. Tragedy | LiveStream | Tues., Apr. 24th, 2018, 3PM

Police Constable Victor Kwong: Good afternoon and thank you very much
for coming to Toronto Police Service.I’d like to introduce to you Chief Mark
Saunders who we’ll be updating the media on the events of yesterday. Chief. Chief Mark Saunders: Thank You Victor. So as you know
yesterday April 23rd at approximately 1:25 p.m. Toronto Police Service
Communications received a phone call stating that there’s a personal personal
collision injury in the Young and Finch area. I can tell you that seven minutes
after that phone call, Toronto Police Service had a male under arrest for we
believe responsible for the mass casualty incident that took place.
Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson from the Toronto Homicide Squad is here today
he will be able to give you an overview of the investigation and the status of
it right now. Chief Coroner Dirk Huyer is going to be
here and he’ll also be able to provide some updates on other aspects of the
investigation but what I will speak to is the next steps with regards to the
crime scene itself appreciating the fact that we’re looking at approximately a
kilometre strip if the busiest street in the country. It’s an outdoor scene there
is a lot of evidence that needs to be gathered however we try to take every
measure possible to expedite the processing of the scene without
affecting or compromising the integrity of the investigation in order to do that
we had to acquire the resources of specialized traffic reconstruction
resources from other jurisdictions. I can tell you the GTA collectively called to
pitch in and we’re grateful for that particular help that was asked however
at the end of the day were able to utilize York Regional Police Service as
well as Peel Regional Services to help assist with processing the scene as
quick as possible and also I’d like to thank Commissioner Hawks and the Ontario
Provincial Police for also providing special resources in helping look after
the scene. I can tell you every effort is going to be made to continue to do what
we can do to reduce the footprint that we have occupied at this point and we
are hoping by the end of the day to have that particular scene reduced.
Now to speak on the actual investigation itself Detective
Sergeant Graham Gibson. Det/Sgt Graham Gibson: Thank You chief I’m gonna update you on the
investigation aspect of homicides 18 to 27 for this year and with regard to the
investigation it is alleged that during the morning hours as the Chief mentioned
of Monday April 23rd the accused now known to be 25 year old Alec Minassian
attended a Ryder truck rental facility just north of Toronto. He then proceeded
to rent a panel style van subsequent to that he then made his way to the area of
Finch and Yonge Street in Toronto and this was around 1:30 p.m. As has been
reported in the media, the accused is alleged to have posted a cryptic message
on Facebook minutes before he began driving the rented van and he drove it
southbound on Yonge Street and onto the crowded sidewalks.
He continued to drive southbound a Yonge Street deliberately striking pedestrians
on the sidewalk and roadway with the vehicle. The accused was arrested by a
member of the Toronto Police Service in the area of Yonge and Sheppard Avenue.
Once arrested the accused was taken to 32 division and he was investigated by
the Homicide Squad. He has been charged with 10 counts of
first degree murder, 13 counts of attempted murder and we’re anticipating
a 14th count of attempted murder which will be laid shortly following some
follow-up investigation. The accused did appear in court today this morning at
1,000 Finch Avenue and he’s being held in custody. As you can imagine the
investigation is extremely detailed and ongoing and because the accused has been
charged I’m restricted from discussing any evidence involved in the
investigation including any questions pertaining to motive. At this time I’m
going to appeal to members of the public and the business community in the
affected area. If you have video of the incident or our witness and you have not
spoken to an investigator tonight or this morning of this afternoon I’d ask
you to reach out as soon as possible to the homicide squad or 32 division to
speak with an officer. The TPS has a portal on their homepage for members of
the community to upload any video evidence they may have a tape obtained
along with their contact information which can be put in as well.
Investigators will be reaching out to witnesses and the surviving victims in
the near future to follow up in the investigation. I’d like to thank
everybody right now for their ongoing cooperation. Thank you. Chief Coroner Dr Dirk Huyer: So I’d like to start off and speak on
behalf of the death investigation system of Ontario and also with my colleagues
and all of those others in law enforcement that I’ve been working
diligently throughout the night and all afternoon yesterday to express our
heartfelt condolences to the families of those who have suffered terrible losses
for the tragic deaths and the multiple victims who are also still injured and
recovering. Also to not only the families but also the communities the city and
everybody generally across Canada and and broader. It’s a horrible tragedy and
one that hopefully will never have to repeat. I’m here working representing as
I say the death investigation system working to support the Toronto Police
Service and others as we sort through this tragedy and try to gain an
understanding of what’s occurred over the past 24 hours in just over 24 hours.
We always work together as a team with police investigators and also with
coroner’s forensic pathologists and others to try to understand the
circumstances. It really depends on the type of cases who will lead that case. In
this case given the the fact that there are criminal charges and this is a
criminal investigation the police are leading most of the investigation
however we have the responsibility for the examination of those who are
deceased and a key component of that is the identification of those peoples.
There’s a number of questions that are being raised about when are we going to
release the names, who are the people that have died, and when when can we
learn more about them. I’m going to tell you today that we have not confirmed any
of the identifications at this point and we are working to do that work carefully.
We clearly recognize and fully sympathize with the families and we
recognize the significance of those and their friends who are desperate to
understand and to know the true identities of those who have died. I’ll
tell you identifying the victims is our number-one priority and last night and
Detective Sergeant and I were working closely with others. There were
corners that were present at the scene and we’re working closely with our
forensic pathology colleagues to help to start that work. But we also have to
ensure that we’re completely accurate when we do this so we’re always
balancing the need to know and the desire to know quickly to ensure that we
have a hundred percent accuracy and that takes time and that time can be very
frustrating it in situations. When we have tragedies of such multiple numbers
and complexity it’s very challenging. It occurred in a very busy pedestrian area
and it occurred over a significant distance and there were many who are
injured as well as deceased and we need to have a full understanding of both the
injured as well as the deceased to truly understand who each of those peoples are
to to effectively provide information to those families. It’s far different for
example from somebody found in their house deceased.
So why is it take so long? Most of the time people have identification on them
and that gives us the first information as to who that person may be. So from
that information we then reach out to family members and we have done that
Police Service have done that working with us and told the family that we
believe their loved one has died and we’ve asked them to help us to develop a
method to scientifically confirm those identifications and those confirmations
will be through dental x-ray comparison, potentially fingerprint comparison, or if
necessary DNA comparison. So we are actively obtaining records. We have as I
say notified families and told them that we believe tentatively that their loved
ones have passed but we’ve also provided great caution in that and therefore we
will not be releasing any of those names until we fully understand it. You know
people look different when they’re deceased, injuries occur and we want to
be very careful that we don’t have any confusion with that. There’s a team
actively working right now forensic pathologists forensic anthropologists
coroner’s dentists and scientists all working together as I say to make a plan
and to develop this. Having said that I don’t believe that we will be conferred
for certainly a number of days and when we do we will release those in a
respectful way after the family are notified of the confirmation. So over the
next number of days we will be doing that work we will also be doing full
examinations to fully understand the injuries that occurred and to help
inform family members but also inform the criminal justice. So this point I
will step over and the mayor will take over. Mayor John Tory: Well good afternoon.
First and foremost may I begin as I have previously and speaking to this matter
to express once again my condolences on behalf of all the people of the City of
Toronto to the families of those who continue to suffer. Obviously they’ve
they have uncertainty added to the tragedy that happened yesterday and many
of the people in the surrounding areas have some of the same uncertainty but I
will say in in expressing our deep condolences and heartfelt sympathies
that both the Premier and myself of made inquiries of the officials and have been
assured and I am entirely satisfied that every possible resource has been applied
to the task that was just described to you and that everything is being done as
quickly as possible and that includes the much less important matters but
nonetheless ones that I’m going to address which have to do with the city
and its state of affairs. The city itself we’re seeing what the city’s made of
today and I think in terms of its sort of moral fiber and its spirit, people are
showing the world our best even on our darkest days. I think a visit to the
memorial up at Yonge and Finch is something that is very moving because
there have been hundreds and hundreds of people who have been there and and
they’ve joined in solidarity with all of those they don’t know to express their
heartfelt condolences as well. We’re seeing a great deal of generosity of
spirit but we’re also seeing generosity that people want to express in other
ways in terms of providing some degree of support for the families that have
been affected by this. People want to help. they want to do something. We’ve
seen organizations start up fundraising campaigns and one of the things we
thought best for us to do at the city was to be in touch with the Toronto
foundation to try and bring degree of coordination to this so you
had one well-known organization that has an organization in place to deal with
precisely this kind of thing that could help us to to in one place pull together
the generous support that people wish to offer of a financial nature to support
the families of those who’ve been killed or injured and so the city of Toronto
has partnered with the Toronto foundation and there will be initiated
today a fund that is called hashtag Toronto strong fund and this will ensure
that donations can be put together in one place and then can flow to families
and agencies and others in an orderly fashion including Victim Services. The
city and the Toronto foundation have also been in communication with GoFundMe
and the organisation Canada is a cat. They have both very generously and
kindly stepped forward to take some efforts some preliminary efforts to
assist families as well and these are all important efforts and I want to
express on behalf of the city and the people of Toronto our thanks for people
who have initiated that generosity. What we’re now going to do is try to work
with these groups to coordinate all these efforts and ideally to make sure
that it is captured and coordinated in a in a fully accountable and transparent
manner in one place so that everybody knows that that exactly how things are
being handled. So we’re all working hard to respond to this as best that we can.
In terms of other things we’re dealing here with a city that is in mourning but
we’re strong and we’re resilient and we’re I think showing the world how
Toronto responds in times like these and one of the challenges that has been in
front of us has been to keep the city functioning and we’ve had I should tell
you extraordinary health and I wanted just underline again as I have in
previous times that I’ve spoken the work that has been done by all of our first
responders yesterday and today and the work that continues to be done of course
in the main by the Toronto Police Service is something that is was
extraordinary to behold yesterday and continues to be extraordinary and that
of course not only extends to the work they’re doing investigating but also it
includes the cooperation that the police chief and his men and women have shown
to us in the context of of trying to complete their work as soon as possible
and I should say I made it clear from my standpoint well we want to get the city
functioning normally that I wanted to make sure we had every opportunity to do his work
completely and properly and thoroughly but obviously we wanted to get the city
working and I should say our city staff together with staff from elsewhere have
also been very helpful in this regard. To that end the North York Civic Center
will reopen tomorrow for business as usual and we expect that to be the case
and that there should be nothing that should alter that. As you know more than
half of the affected area has already been open to pedestrians into traffic.
The closure, the continued closure of part of the area is posing difficulty
for many and it’s trying the patience of many but I ask for people’s continued
understanding. As you heard the chief indicate we expect that with all the
work that is presently being done by the police service by the TTC and by Canada
Post in this area, that it should be done by the end of the day today and so while
we won’t miss the we won’t make the afternoon rush hour as a time that we
can reopen the roads and reopen normal subway operations we expect that will in
fact be the case by early evening today and so that means that during the
afternoon rush hour it’s likely that the TTC will continue to bypass the North
York station and the section of Yonge Street that is presently closed will
remain closed but by early evening we expect the full extent of Yonge Street
to be reopened and that the subway will then resume normal operations including
stopping at the at the North York Centre stop and I will just say once again that
in addition to the thanks the chief offered to all of those from around the
world who’ve been in touch with Toronto to offer their condolences and their
their sympathies, thank you to the surrounding municipalities who’ve helped
the police service and others with the task of doing all the work they have to
do, thank you and in particular to our own Police Service and to all of the
people involved in this and all of the others involved in any way in emergency
services, health care, the coroner’s office. Thank you because they have done
an extraordinary job I can assure you having seen the chance having had the
chance to see a lot of it firsthand. Thank you. Police Chief Mark Saunders: Okay so we’ll open the floor to some questions. Question Inaudible Police Chief Mark Saunders: Can you repeat the question? Reporter: Can you confirm that a cellphone was used? Police Chief Mark Saunders: Yes that there was a cellphone from the suspect that was in fact seized Reporter: Det/Sgt can you talk a little bit about that time between when the alleged rented this van and when the rampage alleged started? Do he go straight from the rental place to Yonge and Finch or are we talking about a matter of hours in between, and if so would you be able to fill in that time? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: As I stated because it is an ongoing
investigation I can’t get to detailed. I can say that it was a fairly short
period of time and we’re working hard to fill in those gaps before the events
that occurred. Reporter: You made a point to mention this Facebook post which is something that you normally wouldn’t necessarily hear, but is there a reason that you mentioned that? And is there something that you’re reading into that? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: No we we look at all aspects of what comes in investigation we take everything and we
analyze it and investigate it. I knew for a fact that it was in the media. it was
very prevalent and on television yesterday and in the paper so I’m not
telling you anything that I think you yourselves and the public don’t already
know and it’s something that we’ll take into account this investigation
throughout the coming weeks. Reporter: Det/Sgt, I know you can’t talk about motive, but the big question remains “Why?” You did mention that Facebook post, can you at least say if the suspect was frustrated with his relationships with women? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: Again
because that’s part of the evidence that’s going to be part of our
investigation. Reporter: Is there any group that you’re talking to in relation that he may have been affiliated with in connection to that post? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: There’s no group that we’re speaking to what we are doing is
collecting all of the information that we can find. It’s an ongoing process and
we will over the coming weeks investigate all of those aspects. Reporter: Are there a number of women who were in the victims? Give us a sense I mean looking at the list of names seems to be predominantly female. Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: Yeah that’s fair to say predominately
female. Reporter: Can we talk about age range? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: Age range is anywhere between mid 20s up to the area of 80s. Reporter: Any indication … Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: There’s no
indication at this point at this point in time. Reporter: You mentioned a cell phone. Was that the thing that was in his hand as he was being taken down? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson:That’s we’re gonna have to examine video
to ensure that so I don’t want to answer that conclusively until I’ve had a
chance to view all that video. Reporter: Question Inaudible Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: I’m sorry you have to repeat the question. Reporter: The 14 attempted murder Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: Yes it’s all it’s all in the same area, yes. Reporter: Is there any reason to believe that the suspect is mentally ill? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: That’s that’s something that would have
to be explored and it’s far too early for me to make any comment on that right
now. Reporter: Detective, do you have anything to say about his past known obsession with the California killer? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: I don’t have anything to say about that right now except to say that it’s
something that over the coming weeks and I’m repeating myself it’s something that
we’ll be looking into. Reporter: …15 injuries, can you mention there’s 14 possible and follow up investigation and that 15 people were injured, can you explain it to us so we can help explain to the public why there would be perhaps a 15th also? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: It was simply a matter of a miscount and we were able to
look further and deeper into all the evidence that we had at the hospitals as
you can imagine it’s very confusing and it was just a miscount. It’s accurate as up to today. Yes. Reporter: Is there in fact only 14? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: Yes Reporter: Can you tell us about the extent of their injuries? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: I can’t speak to the exact nature. I do have an idea and it
ranges from scrapes and bruises to terrible injuries that I won’t get into
discussing here. Reporter: Can you tell us how many are at the hospital? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: Sorry? Reporter: Can you tell us how many of the victims are at the hospital today? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: I don’t have an exact number of that. I do have investigators who
are involved in tracking that but I don’t to tell you I know some have gone
home but to tell you an exact number I’d be guessing. Reporter: How close are police to understanding the route he took? We’ve heard it, he was, you know are you mapping that together? How close are we to understanding exactly where the victims are and how all that… Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: That’s being done it’s a
it’s a part of the process of us going through the crime scene and we had the
experts come from hit and run as the chief spoke up from our service and
other assisting services in conjunction with Forensic Identification services.
It’s going to take a bit of time to make sure that we’ve got the proper route but
we’re still working on that. Reporter: retirement is it more just what happened
tumbled careful. Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: I believe the doctor would speak to that. Chief Coroner Dr Dirk Huyer: So in in Ontario and
in generally in death investigation when there’s a complex incident like this
because of the potential the severity of the injuries which I’m not going to
specifically comment upon because I haven’t had an opportunity to directly
examine all of the deceased persons but with that complexity also because of the
the number we always take an approach that we will use a scientific method to
confirm the identification to prevent any up any any confusion that may arise.
If you think about visual, it’s visual confirmation. So usually when we’re doing
a visual confirmation of an identity we usually have strong belief that that’s
who the person is and in fact the visual isn’t really an identification to
confirmation and with many people who die within a complex situation such as
this and many who are injured we are very careful and therefore we use a
scientific method so that there won’t be potential confusion. Reporter: Inaudible…because of what happened or is this to make sure are you following the usual protocols? Chief Coroner Dr Dirk Huyer: This is our protocol this is the process
this is the process that we take in a complex fatality that’s something we
feel strongly about we’ve we’ve talked about this through planning and
discussions and this is this is the best practice that we feel strongly with. It’s
very challenging though I will say because there are many many in the
public many in the community many families who want us to confirm and
we’re very careful about that. Reporter: What’s the discrepancy in the length of time that it takes to do, to follow that protocol compared to the usual way? Chief Coroner Dr Dirk Huyer: Well the usual way really is
case-by-case so there are many cases that we would be using scientific
confirmation and other other situations of death. So for us a visual confirmation
would be based upon a number of circumstances and factors. The house they
may be living in, the ID they may have, when they were last seen, who they were
with all those sorts of things may make visual confirmation much more
straightforward as opposed to a pedestrian who’s walking in in a portion
of Toronto and it’s unknown walking by themselves and and they are struck. So
you can imagine their significant complexities and the factors that would
allow us to have a more specific idea of who it is would be limited. Reporter: Are majority of the victims women? Or are majority of the deceased victims women? That was said earlier. Can you clarify? Chief Coroner Dr Dirk Huyer: Yeah I’m not
going to comment on that because I don’t I don’t have all of that sorted through
until we have confirmation. Reporter: Are there extra resources being brought in at the coronary’s office with the Bruce McArthur’s investigation, since this van attack? Can the coroner’s office keep up? Chief Coroner Dr Dirk Huyer: Yeah that’s, it’s the death
investigation system so we’re coroners and forensic pathologists and and other
forensic experts. We we have plans for complexity situations such as this and
we’ve mobilized that plan and we feel confident that we are moving in in the
most effective way. We have a plan in place on how to do these examinations. We we brought in extra people last night, we have capacity and we we feel confident
that we have a plan that will allow us to move in the most time-efficient way.
Frankly it takes time to get records and it takes time to meet families and so
that’s not a resource issue. That’s really, you need to ensure that you’re
talking to the right person, you take the time to do that and obviously people are
grieving. Then we need to achieve finding those records which may be challenging
and then those records need to be compared effectively. So we don’t want to
rush this and it’s not because we’re limited in numbers it’s because we want
to take the most appropriate time to ensure that we give the best answers
possible. Reporters: Inaudible Reporter: …because there are maybe international families that play in this case? Chief Coroner Dr Dirk Huyer: Yeah , there are a number of complexities in reaching reaching the
families and reaching through friends and other ways. The Toronto Police
Service did an admirable job. We work together to think of a strategy and to
try to provide the information as quickly as possible to the families. I
have to really take my hat off to the to the Toronto Police Service who did an
admirable job of in both with the injured as well as the deceased persons. Reporter: Can you tell us the timeline, yesterday I think we were told 26 minutes between the beginning and the arrest. Seven
minutes ago we’re told today is just a matter and sorry that’s probably a
question to Detective Sergeant or the Chief but is it seven minutes from when
the first person was struck to when Mr. Minassian was under arrest? Detective Sergeant or the chief? Whoever wants to…? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: To be honest with you I don’t have an exact timeline it’s
something we’re still working on. When we do have a better idea and we’ve had a
chance to go through the video footage I’ll have a better idea and that’s
something that we’re still doing right now. Reporter: 26 minutes when we were told that last night. That’s a long time for it to be going on. So there’s a big mistake, big difference between that and saying it was over in less than ten minutes, wouldn’t you say? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: Yeah I would say it was closer to the ten minute. Reporter: Inaudlibe Chief Mark Saunders: Thank you so the information that I have it is from the first call to the moment for arrest and I’m told and I’ve been told
more than on one occasion that that was a seven minute gap. Reporter: Chief, the officer who made the arrest. A lot of people have been amazed by that video. Do you think your officer showed remarkable restraint or was he showing remarkable training? Chief Mark Saunders: Well I mean it’s a
it’s a combination of both. I mean as an organization one of the aspects of
policing in today’s environment with all of the urban cities across Canada is
that we find that more of our calls for service involve a lot of aspects that
require more de-escalation. We’ve added a third day within our organization that’s
specific to de-escalation and dealing with not just community interactions but
also dealing with the de-escalation piece our training at the police college
as well speaks to de-escalation more people will be dealing with
de-escalation than pulling out their firearms and most police agencies in in
Toronto and so it is a focal point of our training piece. having said that that
particular situation yesterday the the way in which it went down was nothing
short of remarkable. Reporter: Did he Chief Mark Saunders: Well that’s gonna be evidence and I believe Detective
Sergeant Gibson wants to put a hold on drilling into. Reporter: Chief Saunders, have you had a chance to speak with the officer? Chief Mark Saunders: I’ve had a very brief opportunity to speak with
him he’s doing well. He’s very thankful for all of the support. He he basically
expresses he defaulted to his training under the circumstance and we’re doing
anything and everything to make sure that his well-being is looked after. Reporter: Can you talk about security around the city? There’s the Jays game tonight. Is there anything being done security wise? Chief Mark Saunders: Well
from a community safety perspective we have put our officers on 12-hour shifts
at this point in time with a couple of overlaps to look at ensuring that we
have the most amount of officers where they need to be and why they need to be
there based on threat assessments, based on information we received from Intel
and any other aspects and ensuring that the City of Toronto is in fact safe. We
have nothing that suggests that there needs to be any more concern from a
safety perspective but having said that I don’t want to remain overly
comfortable on that. Our officers are highly trained to make sure that we’ve
heightened our awareness and to be making sure that we are communicating
with the communities that we are policing right now and we’ve changed our
deployment with what calls we are going to and the investigation takes priority
right now and we’re going to take every step to make sure the investigative
pieces looked after to its fulsomeness as well as we continue our day to day
process of being where we need to be at all times. Reporter: You guys weren’t dealing with any non-emergency situations yesterday? Has that changed, or are you guys working or dealing with that? Chief Mark Saunders: No that has changed. We are scaling down
but we also are making sure that all of the priority calls are looked after in a
very timely fashion and then we will take the next steps of building down
from that which is what we’re doing right now. Wendy? Reporter: Can you speak to resources? You hear this is the third high profile homicide investigation that Toronto Police has taken on in a number of months. Are your officers stretched? Do you have enough resources to deal with this? Chief Mark Saunders: As you can see yesterday everybody steps
up the plate in time of need. Not just the law enforcement but also members of
the community it really does define the City of Toronto as a whole. This is a
particular situation where we have quite a lot of resources to help at the
front-loading end of it and we have an opportunity to to hold this particular
crime scene so that we can really dig down and make sure that we have
everything that’s necessary for this particular investigation. Resource wise,
I’m very comfortable with where we stand right now. Reporter: no evidence that it was terrorism and no evidence that it was connection to another group? What provides that sort of Chief Mark Saunders: That that was not said that’s very incorrect. As as a homicide investigator and and Graham is very
highly trained. All doors are open everything will be explored you guys are
looking at one particular aspect of the investigation but I can tell you from
his seat they’re going to be many more layers a lot of product judicial
authorizations. There’s a lot more video evidence that has to come in. There a lot
more witnesses which is why we have the hotline up there. We’ve got tremendous
support right now from the community. The one thing that I missed yesterday
because I just landed here and I didn’t really fully appreciate what many
citizens had to witness the the the the casualties that they were witnessing
just being there at that time and seeing that I want to make sure that everybody
has an understanding we do have that hotline to help people that are in need
or if you know somebody that I don’t want anyone to feel like they there is
nowhere to go and so that hotline will provide a starting point for those
people that will need that help and we’ve also looked after our members of
the service not just our frontline folks, our communications operators, our call
takers, anyone that had a touch point with this. It’s important that we we do
everything that we can from a wellness perspective as well. Reporter: Have you filed terrorism, or hate crime charges then based on his facebook posts? Chief Mark Saunders: I’ve said that all the lanes are open with this investigation. Reporter: Detective Gibson? Question for you. Witnesses have said you charged him with premeditated murder in each one of these cases which reprises deliberate, he was going after these people. We’re hearing predominant number people killed or injured were women. Do you have any evidence, are you pursuing the fact that he was bypassing men and targeting women because some of the witnesses said who watched him, he was very deliberately driving. Do you have evidence that he was deliberately driving to women than men? Detective Graham Gibson: No at this stage we have no evidence of that occurring. As you can
imagine we had to focus yesterday on our victims and the the people who were
injured. Our scene and gathering as much evidence as we could at the time. All
that has taken inordinate amount of time. Last night, all through the night
everybody worked including this morning. All of those things have to be looked at
and it’s going to be over the coming weeks so there’s no way I can make it
general sweeping statement based on that kind of information. Reporter: …this evening and I know Peel and York were saying how big of an issue that is for the reconstruction and doing all the examination and investigation that they need to do so
however the concern is that race against the rain for you and your officers right
now? Detective Graham Gibson: It’s not a concern of ours right now. Over the coming days and weeks I imagine there’ll be a number of judicial authorizations including production
orders and I’m not going to be discussing any of the evidence that
we’ll be searching for. Just the fact that as you are aware we it will be
being done as it is in most homicide investigations. Reporter: Have you gone into the house yet? Detective Graham Gibson: I won’t be commenting on that right now. Reporter: Chief Saunders, just on the deescalation. Are police taught to deal differently with someone who is asking them to shoot, asking to be shot? Shoot me, shoot me! Chief Mark Saunders: Well there’s a couple of aspects to that.
In the most direct answer is yes we were taught de-escalation and its importance
of looking at the situation. All aspects of policing when you look at our touch
points when it comes to use of force and when we make our twenty seven thousand
plus arrests in a year. Our use of force is less than 0.5 percent so taking that
into consideration we are trained to use as little force in any circumstance but
the other factor on top of the training is is providing the proper tools that
are necessary for the officers to have the opportunity to try to use the least
amount of force as possible so by the introduction of the board having us to
have an opportunity of expanding on the conductive energy weapons we will have
all of our frontline officers being readily equipped with that tool that
will have a tremendous benefit I think on reducing loss of life and reducing a
harm. Reporter: So does someone asking to be shot change the way that a police officer interact with them? Does that…? Chief Mark Saunders: There’s no there’s no cookie cut. You have to look at the situation. What
are the issues, what’s the proximity, mindset, a level of violence within that
situation, a backdrop, what’s the environment behind the particular person.
So there are a lot of moving parts that we incorporate within our training and
of course at all costs we are looking at the reduction or loss of life as a as a
method of resolution. Reporter: Any special qualities, Chief, that that agent has because you’ve got two different cases BECU
at Boise I’m sorry animus agent on via the same training Chief Mark Saunders: Well I don’t have the luxury of doing comparativres. What I’m doing is I’m dealing with the moment that we have at
hand and right now at hand we had a mass casualty incident and as a result of
that we were able to successfully apprehend the person we believe
responsible for that and on the go forward we are going to take the
necessary steps. Reporter: Any special qualities that you were able to discern by meeting with your agent and that might help explain that on top of this training? Chief Mark Saunders: It’s as I stated and our officer defaulted to his training and as a result we’ve got successful outcomes Reporter: Chief, has the suspect made any any statements at all to, and have you guys ruled out any accomplices? Chief Mark Saunders: Detective Sergeant Gibson is looking into all of those aspects as I stated earlier. We will investigate to the
fullest and whatever we can obtain we will obtain and we’ll push it towards
the court system. Thank you. Reporter: Can you talk about how you felt when you got the news? Police Constable Victor Kwong: Thank you. Sorry. Chief Mark Saunders: I’ll comment quickly on that. Yeah I can I can definitely do
that. I was out at the country at the time. Now obviously the first my first
issue was that the loss of life into the families that having been in homicide.
People can’t really appreciate the fact that we have a lot of live victims and
and and this is a toll that will last forever. The magnitude of the where this
occurred is something that also had a concern. The well-being of my officers
and also the civilians at the front end taking the calls in and having to deal
with it knowing that there’ll be abundance of calls of people who were
not there to witness people dying and and and we being the front the first
point of contact and understanding appreciating appreciating the impact
that has on our civilians as well. You know Toronto is an urban city it’s a
fourth largest and a North American continent I can appreciate when we look
at the world map and the scope of things that are happening that it is a reality
there is you know we are policing in a difficult environment and the ability of
having the properly trained people in place at the right time to do the right
things becomes very important for us. Looking at lessons learned on the go
forward how can we as an organization benefit from this how can we educate and
update the public in a timely fashion so that we can all take a part in that
community safety perspective and also looking at it globally to look for
commonalities and look for when we start debriefing what can we do better
are the things that opportunities for us to grow and enhance and and and make
sure that we provide the best product that we can as law enforcement for the
great city of Toronto. Reporter: So anybody can call the victim services hotline right? Somebody that witnessed it and that’s different from this, what we’re seeing up here? It was a different hotline, right? Chief Mark Saunders: Yes and
we’ll provide that particular hotline. It’s it’s important that we as a city as
a whole, community safety’s not just a matter of saving lives it’s also a
matter of well-being. We have partners we’ve got Victim Services and other
people that are that are stepping up to the plate to assist us. It is for free, it
is a service that will be provided for free, there is no cost to it and I don’t
want people walking away thinking I need help but I can’t afford it, or I need
help but I wasn’t part of this investigation, or if you have a friend
that may have witnessed it but has nowhere to go, if that friend can contact
that person at least start a process, it will be of great benefit to us as a
whole as a community so. Thanks. Reporter: Chief, before you go, can you confirm how many people were inured? Chief Mark Saunders: I’ll let Detective Sergeant Gibson answer that. Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: As I previously stated, 14. Reporter: Can the foreign council and embassy make an inquiry about the victims? Detective Sergeant Graham Gibson: Yeah we do have the at least the Koreans so far and
there’s others that we’re dealing with but it’s just a matter of us being able
to have the time this afternoon to get back to them. So it’s ongoing. Police Constable Victor Kwong: All right thank you very much. That
concludes today’s conference.

Robin Kshlerin



  1. John Gilmour Posted on April 27, 2018 at 8:28 pm

    Isis use many cloaks to preach their "DOGMA"!

  2. Adam Adam Posted on May 19, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    Greetings to the Canadian police I love them so much that they are strong in arresting criminals! The Lord protects you